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 Posted: Jul 15, 2005 - 05:08 PM
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| Yep, so now you know what I'm talking about when I say that the sources just can't be pushed together to set off a bomb. If you did, it would blow up, but not like a nuke. By forcing them together like with high explosives, you get the release of all that energy at once and can take out a city, not just a building. |
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Posted: Jul 14, 2005 - 01:13 PM
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Oooh, Chernobyl the Russian Nuclear Powerplant, I knew what that was. I only recognize the sound of "Chernobyl" but not the spelling. Well now I know how it's spelled. 
Yea, the Chernobyl incident took place quite a few years ago. I remember seeing on TV a helecopter's view of the power plant while it was melting down. The building was destroyed, and in the middle quite a few feet down into the ground, you could see this greenish glow, or it might have been orange, I just remember seeing some unusual color down in the ground. That must have been the radioactive material that powered the powerplant. |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2005 - 01:12 PM
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Well, I'm no bomb expert either, but I've done allot of reading in my days. Chernobyl is the nuclear power plant in russia that had the melt down and exploded. It's what happens when a nuclear reaction goes out of control. A nuclear bomb is basically the same thing, but they use high explosives (such as plastic explosives etc) to drive the two radioactive sources together. With an out of control nuclear reaction like Chernobyl, it blows up a couple builbings and spews radio active crap all over. They had to evacuate the city where all the workers lived and it can never be re-populated for like 1000 years or more. When a nuclear bomb goes off, the explosives drive the sources together in an instant and you get all the energy release at once and blows up square miles and radioactive contamination doesn't last very long because the sources energy is all released at once.
So if you just put the two sourses together in a suitcase and pushed them together they would begin a nuclear reaction like a nuklear power plant and create allot of heat and explode, but only making a relatively small explosion and spewing the un-reacted radioactive material all over. Now if they were driven together in an instant, all energy would be released in that instant and you would take out cities.
That concludes my understanding of nuclear bombs  . Like I said, I'm no expert but the basics are sound. Neither way is very nice, but a little non-critical bomb, you could evacuate the area, and survive the radio active exposure. But a critical one would level a good sized city and take out thousands.
The southern border is a major problem and I personnally think it will be THE issue in the next elections. It seems like nobody wants to do anything about it but someone better. |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2005 - 04:47 PM
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Yea, you got a good point. Without giving up some money to see this guy's blog, you just get an article with anonymous or no sources. Would be nice to see some sources as well as confirmation on the facts/sources.
I'm not a bomb expert, I don't know the first thing about bombs except that you put some explosives (whatever they're made of), trigger it, then bomb go BOOM! So could you explain to me why uranium and plutonium would not make a nuke? And what is Chernobyl?
I think right now would be a neccessary time for Bush to start doing something about all our borders. North, South, East Coast, West Coast, Hawaii, and Alaska borders. Especially our Mexico border, it's just to easy to cross. My cousin, who is from Juarez, Mexico tells me it's real easy to go to the United States. Juarez, is on the border next to El Paso, Texas. Whenever he wants, him and his friends can go to the United States any time of the day, go shopping or whatever, then go back home to Mexico, without having to go through many security checkpoints. Also, the Mexican government is handing out copies of DVDs to their citizens that give detailed instructions on "how to cross the US-Mexico border safely." WTF? I know bringing the fight to the enemy is the best idea, but we still got to be ready at home in case if there is a sneak attack. This IS a war we are involved in. |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2005 - 01:21 AM
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Part of the scary part of this article is the fact that there is no way to check the facts. There are a few things in it that bother me.
First, without subscibing to this guys Blog, there is no way of knowing if the "sources" are real and can be questioned about what he say's they said. I just don't like the anonimous source. Not a big deal, but something that bugs me.
Second, he mentions that this suitcase bomb is one part uranium and the other plutonium, with a trigger. What about the high explosives that are needed to drive the parts together to start the reaction. Without the explosives, you get a Chernobyl, and not a nuclear bomb. Bad, yes, but nuke, no. Minor omission, but another bug.
Last little bug for me is the part about bringing it accross the border through mexico. I could buy that part if the damn things weren't so heavy. Because your not gonna get them through a border crossing, your gonna have to carry it accross the desert. They have radiation detectors at the crossings. Back in the early 80's I worked at a hospital in the radiation therapy dept. The older machine has a kobol radioactive source in it. A hospital in mexico got a newer machine that creates radiation buy fireing electrons at a tungston plate and doesn't use a source, so they scrapped the old one with the source. No-one bothered to remove it before sending the machine to the scrap yard and it was melted down as scrap metal and made into table legs and sold to a "Denny's" in Arizona. (may have been new mexico, it's been a while). Anyways. our detectors caught it as it came accross the border. A big investigation ensued and the story was well know in the buisness. The point being that some group would have to get the thing half way around the world to Mexico, then carry a "approximately 110 to 176 pounds" radioactive suitcase accross the desert to get it here. Possible? Yes, but I just think that driving it through a few open borders in europe and a small boat ride to say england, is more likely.
Now the part about getting a hold of nukes already planted here by the USSR durring the cold war, does scare me. That really is a plausable threat. A tidy sum to the right guy, and you got a nuke. I would guess that they aren't in a saftey deposit box, but burried in a basement somewhere, or something like that. No security to pass and no guards at the door.
Nukes are not an easy thing to do. It's much easier to fill some barrels with furtelizer and deisel fuel like Oklahoma. But if there is one here, and a few bucks will get it for ya, that is something to strive for. So in my humble opinion, that article doesn't scare me that much, but it does raise some interesting points. It does seem a little like a Bush attack. I do think that Bush is sleeping at the wheel when it comes to our southern border, but these kinds of articles beg to ask if this guy voted for Gore or Kerry, just to be on the safe side. You can find articles on the internet leaning any way you want. Thats why I watch out for these things that just don't fit right.
Maybe everything this guy says is true, but I'm not building a bomb shelter anytime soon. |
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Post subject: Usama Bin Laden's "American Hiroshima"
Posted: Jul 12, 2005 - 12:03 AM
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Look's like Usama Bin Laden's got more plans for us yet. According to this article, the 9/11 and London attacks were just warmups for what else is to come. The article states that he's been working with the Mexican street gang MS-13 to smuggle in suitcase nukes into major cities. His plan is to basically blow away 4 million Americans, 2 million which must be children; in order to avenge the crimes we've committed. This is what is termed as the "American Hiroshima." This information was collected from captured al-Qaida leaders and documents. It also mentions how easily these terrorists, as well as illegal immigrants are crossing our Southern border, and how the federal government seems to be doing nothing about it. I also find it funny how halfway down the article, there's a paragraph that states:
"However, it is worth noting that Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack."
If this is the real information that we are getting from these captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, then I am real worried about the future. You can read the article here: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203 |
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